Comments on: The Classic Story of the Pig and Chicken http://www.implementingscrum.com/2006/09/11/the-classic-story-of-the-pig-and-chicken/ Starting Tough Conversations about Software Development Wed, 18 Jan 2012 21:57:48 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Vermittlung von Projektorganisationen statt Bodyleasing – Nachfolger der modernen "Sklavenhändler"? « Unlocking Potential http://www.implementingscrum.com/2006/09/11/the-classic-story-of-the-pig-and-chicken/comment-page-2/#comment-3464 Vermittlung von Projektorganisationen statt Bodyleasing – Nachfolger der modernen "Sklavenhändler"? « Unlocking Potential Tue, 27 Dec 2011 20:44:20 +0000 http://www.implementingscrum.com/blog/2006/09/11/the-classic-story-of-the-pig-and-chicken/#comment-3464 [...] funktionieren und nicht nur auf dem Papier gut aussehen: Dieser absolute Klassiker aus dem Blog Implementing Scrum zeigt aus meiner Sicht eines der Erfolgskriterien für Vermittlungstätigkeiten, die einen Wert [...] [...] funktionieren und nicht nur auf dem Papier gut aussehen: Dieser absolute Klassiker aus dem Blog Implementing Scrum zeigt aus meiner Sicht eines der Erfolgskriterien für Vermittlungstätigkeiten, die einen Wert [...]

]]> By: Things you should know about Scrum « Diganta Kumar's Blog http://www.implementingscrum.com/2006/09/11/the-classic-story-of-the-pig-and-chicken/comment-page-2/#comment-3462 Things you should know about Scrum « Diganta Kumar's Blog Fri, 23 Dec 2011 22:42:04 +0000 http://www.implementingscrum.com/blog/2006/09/11/the-classic-story-of-the-pig-and-chicken/#comment-3462 [...] Scrum Master on scrum.org. Follow @kschwaber (Ken Schwaber on twitter) Related links, The Classic Story of the Pig and Chicken Microsoft’s Process Templates and Tools Do you use printed ‘SSW Story Cards’ [...] [...] Scrum Master on scrum.org. Follow @kschwaber (Ken Schwaber on twitter) Related links, The Classic Story of the Pig and Chicken Microsoft’s Process Templates and Tools Do you use printed ‘SSW Story Cards’ [...]

]]> By: Things you should know about Scrum « Diganta Kumar's Blog http://www.implementingscrum.com/2006/09/11/the-classic-story-of-the-pig-and-chicken/comment-page-2/#comment-3461 Things you should know about Scrum « Diganta Kumar's Blog Fri, 23 Dec 2011 15:34:25 +0000 http://www.implementingscrum.com/blog/2006/09/11/the-classic-story-of-the-pig-and-chicken/#comment-3461 [...] The Classic Story of the Pig and Chicken [...] [...] The Classic Story of the Pig and Chicken [...]

]]> By: Feedback de uma aula de Scrum: Foco e Compromisso! | Blog ScrumHalf - Gerência de Projetos Ágeis e Scrum - Brasil http://www.implementingscrum.com/2006/09/11/the-classic-story-of-the-pig-and-chicken/comment-page-2/#comment-3460 Feedback de uma aula de Scrum: Foco e Compromisso! | Blog ScrumHalf - Gerência de Projetos Ágeis e Scrum - Brasil Wed, 21 Dec 2011 15:23:15 +0000 http://www.implementingscrum.com/blog/2006/09/11/the-classic-story-of-the-pig-and-chicken/#comment-3460 [...] ProductOwner-Time. Vamos deixar claro que  o ProductOwner é parte do projeto, é "porco" e não "galinha". Por isso ele deve também ser treinado e estimulado a participar ativamente. Se o [...] [...] ProductOwner-Time. Vamos deixar claro que  o ProductOwner é parte do projeto, é "porco" e não "galinha". Por isso ele deve também ser treinado e estimulado a participar ativamente. Se o [...]

]]> By: Confluence: KTPA PMO http://www.implementingscrum.com/2006/09/11/the-classic-story-of-the-pig-and-chicken/comment-page-2/#comment-3456 Confluence: KTPA PMO Mon, 05 Dec 2011 18:26:04 +0000 http://www.implementingscrum.com/blog/2006/09/11/the-classic-story-of-the-pig-and-chicken/#comment-3456 <strong>Agile Cartoons...</strong> Cartoon that illustrates the Pig Vs. Chicken distinction in Agile circles. !PigsandChicken.jpg border=1! Taken from:... Agile Cartoons…

Cartoon that illustrates the Pig Vs. Chicken distinction in Agile circles. !PigsandChicken.jpg border=1! Taken from:…

]]> By: Project management lessons from the chicken and the pig | Journal of Technology and Economic Development | Future Technology | Green Technology | Military Technology | Business | Trading | Finance | Computer | Robots | Entertainment | Games | GPS | Softwa http://www.implementingscrum.com/2006/09/11/the-classic-story-of-the-pig-and-chicken/comment-page-2/#comment-3447 Project management lessons from the chicken and the pig | Journal of Technology and Economic Development | Future Technology | Green Technology | Military Technology | Business | Trading | Finance | Computer | Robots | Entertainment | Games | GPS | Softwa Sun, 30 Oct 2011 10:42:34 +0000 http://www.implementingscrum.com/blog/2006/09/11/the-classic-story-of-the-pig-and-chicken/#comment-3447 [...] Photo credit from ImplementingScrum.com [...] [...] Photo credit from ImplementingScrum.com [...]

]]> By: Novedades en Visual Studio 11 para ALM (II | PÁGINA WEB GRATIS y DISEÑO WEB GRATIS) http://www.implementingscrum.com/2006/09/11/the-classic-story-of-the-pig-and-chicken/comment-page-2/#comment-3350 Novedades en Visual Studio 11 para ALM (II | PÁGINA WEB GRATIS y DISEÑO WEB GRATIS) Tue, 11 Oct 2011 13:10:29 +0000 http://www.implementingscrum.com/blog/2006/09/11/the-classic-story-of-the-pig-and-chicken/#comment-3350 [...] nueva versión es 100% SCRUMABLE. A Ken Schwaber se le ocurrió sacar la historia de Chickens and Pigs en la última revisión y metió un par de cambios que no comparto, pero la filosofía bajo SCRUM [...] [...] nueva versión es 100% SCRUMABLE. A Ken Schwaber se le ocurrió sacar la historia de Chickens and Pigs en la última revisión y metió un par de cambios que no comparto, pero la filosofía bajo SCRUM [...]

]]> By: Projektmanager – Pig oder Chicken? (Comic « Unlocking Potential) http://www.implementingscrum.com/2006/09/11/the-classic-story-of-the-pig-and-chicken/comment-page-2/#comment-3319 Projektmanager – Pig oder Chicken? (Comic « Unlocking Potential) Thu, 29 Sep 2011 14:29:03 +0000 http://www.implementingscrum.com/blog/2006/09/11/the-classic-story-of-the-pig-and-chicken/#comment-3319 [...] den Punkt: Sind Sie committed oder nur beteiligt? Der referenzierte Klassiker dazu findet sich auf Implementing Scrum: Als Projektgeschichte verpackt findet man die Story übrigens sehr schön im [...] [...] den Punkt: Sind Sie committed oder nur beteiligt? Der referenzierte Klassiker dazu findet sich auf Implementing Scrum: Als Projektgeschichte verpackt findet man die Story übrigens sehr schön im [...]

]]> By: De Nieuwe Nieuwe Spelregels van Scrum | AgileOrdina http://www.implementingscrum.com/2006/09/11/the-classic-story-of-the-pig-and-chicken/comment-page-2/#comment-3262 De Nieuwe Nieuwe Spelregels van Scrum | AgileOrdina Mon, 05 Sep 2011 08:01:48 +0000 http://www.implementingscrum.com/blog/2006/09/11/the-classic-story-of-the-pig-and-chicken/#comment-3262 [...] Meer gedetailleerde uitleg over de veranderingen Artikel ‘The New New Product Development Game’ Stripverhaal over ‘Chicken and Pig’ WikiPedia over ‘Chicken and Pig’ Voel je vrij om commentaar te leveren op de nieuwe nieuwe [...] [...] Meer gedetailleerde uitleg over de veranderingen Artikel ‘The New New Product Development Game’ Stripverhaal over ‘Chicken and Pig’ WikiPedia over ‘Chicken and Pig’ Voel je vrij om commentaar te leveren op de nieuwe nieuwe [...]

]]> By: Scrum: quem são os porcos e as galinhas? | Blog da Bluesoft http://www.implementingscrum.com/2006/09/11/the-classic-story-of-the-pig-and-chicken/comment-page-2/#comment-3230 Scrum: quem são os porcos e as galinhas? | Blog da Bluesoft Fri, 26 Aug 2011 13:36:52 +0000 http://www.implementingscrum.com/blog/2006/09/11/the-classic-story-of-the-pig-and-chicken/#comment-3230 [...] uma tirinha criada pelo site implementingscrum.com (e traduzida pelo Leonardo Dantas) que explica a origem dos [...] [...] uma tirinha criada pelo site implementingscrum.com (e traduzida pelo Leonardo Dantas) que explica a origem dos [...]

]]> By: It’s all in the mind of a pig! « Virtually Thinking http://www.implementingscrum.com/2006/09/11/the-classic-story-of-the-pig-and-chicken/comment-page-2/#comment-3206 It’s all in the mind of a pig! « Virtually Thinking Thu, 11 Aug 2011 16:14:21 +0000 http://www.implementingscrum.com/blog/2006/09/11/the-classic-story-of-the-pig-and-chicken/#comment-3206 [...] worked with Agile teams starting back in 2002, my personal experience is that, the mindset of the pigs on the team is a key differentiation between the success or failure of the [...] [...] worked with Agile teams starting back in 2002, my personal experience is that, the mindset of the pigs on the team is a key differentiation between the success or failure of the [...]

]]> By: Scrum Pattern: Pigs Estimate « Unlocking Potential http://www.implementingscrum.com/2006/09/11/the-classic-story-of-the-pig-and-chicken/comment-page-2/#comment-3200 Scrum Pattern: Pigs Estimate « Unlocking Potential Wed, 20 Jul 2011 11:54:36 +0000 http://www.implementingscrum.com/blog/2006/09/11/the-classic-story-of-the-pig-and-chicken/#comment-3200 [...] The people, who do the work usually know best, how much effort it requires. However, the same people usually calculate a buffer, sometimes even without knowing it. So, estimates need to be challenged. This should be done by asking for a team estimate, e.g. in a Product Backlog Grooming Meeting or in a Sprint Planning Meeting. In Scrum, the estimate is done by Pigs, not by Chickens. [...] [...] The people, who do the work usually know best, how much effort it requires. However, the same people usually calculate a buffer, sometimes even without knowing it. So, estimates need to be challenged. This should be done by asking for a team estimate, e.g. in a Product Backlog Grooming Meeting or in a Sprint Planning Meeting. In Scrum, the estimate is done by Pigs, not by Chickens. [...]

]]> By: New Scrum Term: Chig | Want Agile? http://www.implementingscrum.com/2006/09/11/the-classic-story-of-the-pig-and-chicken/comment-page-2/#comment-3191 New Scrum Term: Chig | Want Agile? Fri, 08 Jul 2011 02:23:46 +0000 http://www.implementingscrum.com/blog/2006/09/11/the-classic-story-of-the-pig-and-chicken/#comment-3191 [...] All others are parties are called chickens, referring to the fact that they are involved, but not committed. For those of you not familiar with the joke, click here to see the original pig and chicken cartoon. [...] [...] All others are parties are called chickens, referring to the fact that they are involved, but not committed. For those of you not familiar with the joke, click here to see the original pig and chicken cartoon. [...]

]]> By: New Scrum Term: Chig | Thanks for coming in today! http://www.implementingscrum.com/2006/09/11/the-classic-story-of-the-pig-and-chicken/comment-page-2/#comment-3190 New Scrum Term: Chig | Thanks for coming in today! Wed, 06 Jul 2011 12:03:30 +0000 http://www.implementingscrum.com/blog/2006/09/11/the-classic-story-of-the-pig-and-chicken/#comment-3190 [...] All others are parties are called chickens, referring to the fact that they are involved, but not committed. For those of you not familiar with the joke, click here to see the original pig and chicken cartoon. [...] [...] All others are parties are called chickens, referring to the fact that they are involved, but not committed. For those of you not familiar with the joke, click here to see the original pig and chicken cartoon. [...]

]]> By: Quora http://www.implementingscrum.com/2006/09/11/the-classic-story-of-the-pig-and-chicken/comment-page-2/#comment-3163 Quora Thu, 26 May 2011 04:53:38 +0000 http://www.implementingscrum.com/blog/2006/09/11/the-classic-story-of-the-pig-and-chicken/#comment-3163 <strong>Which companies or organizations are interested in hiring women who are skilled in technology?...</strong> Great question. I'd suggest the ones that are keenly interested in hiring women who are skilled technologists are the ones that have women (plural - more than one) in a variety of senior roles that are beyond the typical admin stereotype (HR, Corp Com... Which companies or organizations are interested in hiring women who are skilled in technology?…

Great question. I’d suggest the ones that are keenly interested in hiring women who are skilled technologists are the ones that have women (plural – more than one) in a variety of senior roles that are beyond the typical admin stereotype (HR, Corp Com…

]]> By: My Advice for Successful Projects | Peter Meinl – IT Architect & Lateral Thinker http://www.implementingscrum.com/2006/09/11/the-classic-story-of-the-pig-and-chicken/comment-page-2/#comment-3151 My Advice for Successful Projects | Peter Meinl – IT Architect & Lateral Thinker Sun, 10 Apr 2011 16:01:35 +0000 http://www.implementingscrum.com/blog/2006/09/11/the-classic-story-of-the-pig-and-chicken/#comment-3151 [...] See “Implementing Scrum”, The Classic Story of the Pig and Chicken [...] [...] See “Implementing Scrum”, The Classic Story of the Pig and Chicken [...]

]]> By: Confluence: KTPA PMO http://www.implementingscrum.com/2006/09/11/the-classic-story-of-the-pig-and-chicken/comment-page-2/#comment-3149 Confluence: KTPA PMO Fri, 08 Apr 2011 18:31:02 +0000 http://www.implementingscrum.com/blog/2006/09/11/the-classic-story-of-the-pig-and-chicken/#comment-3149 <strong>Cartoons...</strong> Cartoon that illustrates the Pig Vs. Chicken distinction in Agile circles. !PigsandChicken.jpg border=1! Taken from:... Cartoons…

Cartoon that illustrates the Pig Vs. Chicken distinction in Agile circles. !PigsandChicken.jpg border=1! Taken from:…

]]> By: Confluence: KTPA PMO http://www.implementingscrum.com/2006/09/11/the-classic-story-of-the-pig-and-chicken/comment-page-2/#comment-3148 Confluence: KTPA PMO Sat, 02 Apr 2011 19:48:43 +0000 http://www.implementingscrum.com/blog/2006/09/11/the-classic-story-of-the-pig-and-chicken/#comment-3148 <strong>Blogs and Web sites...</strong> Agile Advice... Blogs and Web sites…

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]]> By: Talking Work » Blog Archive » Pomodora Relationship http://www.implementingscrum.com/2006/09/11/the-classic-story-of-the-pig-and-chicken/comment-page-2/#comment-3146 Talking Work » Blog Archive » Pomodora Relationship Wed, 30 Mar 2011 17:23:26 +0000 http://www.implementingscrum.com/blog/2006/09/11/the-classic-story-of-the-pig-and-chicken/#comment-3146 [...] do I use a Piggy, you ask?  Because tomatoes give me gas and Chickens would just be [...] [...] do I use a Piggy, you ask?  Because tomatoes give me gas and Chickens would just be [...]

]]> By: » Episode 6 – The Death of the Lone Ranger The "Don't Sell Me Bro" Podcast http://www.implementingscrum.com/2006/09/11/the-classic-story-of-the-pig-and-chicken/comment-page-2/#comment-2863 » Episode 6 – The Death of the Lone Ranger The "Don't Sell Me Bro" Podcast Wed, 16 Mar 2011 14:33:20 +0000 http://www.implementingscrum.com/blog/2006/09/11/the-classic-story-of-the-pig-and-chicken/#comment-2863 [...] wrap up with the concept of Working With not Working For, and the old agile Chicken and Pig joke. It all comes back around when something goes wrong and the blame starts to [...] [...] wrap up with the concept of Working With not Working For, and the old agile Chicken and Pig joke. It all comes back around when something goes wrong and the blame starts to [...]

]]> By: Teleconferencing from India | mccreavy http://www.implementingscrum.com/2006/09/11/the-classic-story-of-the-pig-and-chicken/comment-page-2/#comment-1913 Teleconferencing from India | mccreavy Sun, 14 Nov 2010 10:42:51 +0000 http://www.implementingscrum.com/blog/2006/09/11/the-classic-story-of-the-pig-and-chicken/#comment-1913 [...] heard the Pigs and Chickens story retold over a WebEx with a LiveOps' twist and that was [...] [...] heard the Pigs and Chickens story retold over a WebEx with a LiveOps' twist and that was [...]

]]> By: The Chicken and The Pig in Software companies | One Canadian Citizen http://www.implementingscrum.com/2006/09/11/the-classic-story-of-the-pig-and-chicken/comment-page-2/#comment-1800 The Chicken and The Pig in Software companies | One Canadian Citizen Fri, 05 Nov 2010 19:14:18 +0000 http://www.implementingscrum.com/blog/2006/09/11/the-classic-story-of-the-pig-and-chicken/#comment-1800 [...] http://www.implementingscrum.com/2006/09/11/the-classic-story-of-the-pig-and-chicken/ [...] [...] http://www.implementingscrum.com/2006/09/11/the-classic-story-of-the-pig-and-chicken/ [...]

]]> By: SCRUM – Porco ou Galinha – Papeis no SCRUM « Brupimentel's Blog http://www.implementingscrum.com/2006/09/11/the-classic-story-of-the-pig-and-chicken/comment-page-1/#comment-1586 SCRUM – Porco ou Galinha – Papeis no SCRUM « Brupimentel's Blog Sun, 17 Oct 2010 03:10:11 +0000 http://www.implementingscrum.com/blog/2006/09/11/the-classic-story-of-the-pig-and-chicken/#comment-1586 [...] http://www.implementingscrum.com/2006/09/11/the-classic-story-of-the-pig-and-chicken/ [...] [...] http://www.implementingscrum.com/2006/09/11/the-classic-story-of-the-pig-and-chicken/ [...]

]]> By: The Agile Monks » Blog Archive » Pigs & Chickens http://www.implementingscrum.com/2006/09/11/the-classic-story-of-the-pig-and-chicken/comment-page-1/#comment-1551 The Agile Monks » Blog Archive » Pigs & Chickens Fri, 08 Oct 2010 21:15:47 +0000 http://www.implementingscrum.com/blog/2006/09/11/the-classic-story-of-the-pig-and-chicken/#comment-1551 [...] http://www.implementingscrum.com/2006/09/11/the-classic-story-of-the-pig-and-chicken/ [...] [...] http://www.implementingscrum.com/2006/09/11/the-classic-story-of-the-pig-and-chicken/ [...]

]]> By: Fábrica de Software – Definir processo de desenvolvimento | SCRUM | Caverna do Software http://www.implementingscrum.com/2006/09/11/the-classic-story-of-the-pig-and-chicken/comment-page-1/#comment-1547 Fábrica de Software – Definir processo de desenvolvimento | SCRUM | Caverna do Software Mon, 27 Sep 2010 02:34:59 +0000 http://www.implementingscrum.com/blog/2006/09/11/the-classic-story-of-the-pig-and-chicken/#comment-1547 [...] Uma série de papéis são definidos no Scrum. Todas as funções se dividem em dois grupos distintos, porcos e galinhas, com base na natureza do seu envolvimento no processo de desenvolvimento. Estes grupos receberam seus nomes de uma piada, sobre um porco e uma galinha, que pensam em abrir um restaurante, confira aqui. [...] [...] Uma série de papéis são definidos no Scrum. Todas as funções se dividem em dois grupos distintos, porcos e galinhas, com base na natureza do seu envolvimento no processo de desenvolvimento. Estes grupos receberam seus nomes de uma piada, sobre um porco e uma galinha, que pensam em abrir um restaurante, confira aqui. [...]

]]> By: juanjocardona (juanjo cardona) http://www.implementingscrum.com/2006/09/11/the-classic-story-of-the-pig-and-chicken/comment-page-1/#comment-1544 juanjocardona (juanjo cardona) Sun, 19 Sep 2010 15:27:50 +0000 http://www.implementingscrum.com/blog/2006/09/11/the-classic-story-of-the-pig-and-chicken/#comment-1544 <strong>Twitter Comment</strong> <a href="http://twitter.com/juanjocardona" title="Twitter Comment" rel="nofollow"> <div class="ccimg1" title="juanjocardona (juanjo cardona)" style="float:left;margin-right:10px;padding:0;width:60px;height:60px;"> <img name="cc_image" title="juanjocardona (juanjo cardona)" style="float:left;margin-right:10px;padding:0;width:50px;height:50px;" src="http://purl.org/net/spiurl/juanjocardona"> </div> </a> Currently reading [link to post] by @mvizdos.<br /><br /> - <a href="http://chatcatcher.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Posted using Chat Catcher</a> Twitter Comment


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]]> By: Extreme Programming (XP vs Scrum | B21.net.pl) http://www.implementingscrum.com/2006/09/11/the-classic-story-of-the-pig-and-chicken/comment-page-1/#comment-1541 Extreme Programming (XP vs Scrum | B21.net.pl) Sat, 11 Sep 2010 20:55:00 +0000 http://www.implementingscrum.com/blog/2006/09/11/the-classic-story-of-the-pig-and-chicken/#comment-1541 [...] Scrum nie narzuca technik kodowania, ale znacznie dokładniej precyzuje aspekty związane z planowaniem, takie jak miejsce i czas trwania spotkań, czy grupy osób, które mogą zabierać głos (warto zapoznać się z oficjalnie przyjętym podziałem na „Kurczaki” i „Świnie” ). [...] [...] Scrum nie narzuca technik kodowania, ale znacznie dokładniej precyzuje aspekty związane z planowaniem, takie jak miejsce i czas trwania spotkań, czy grupy osób, które mogą zabierać głos (warto zapoznać się z oficjalnie przyjętym podziałem na „Kurczaki” i „Świnie” ). [...]

]]> By: daily_meeting (Daily Meeting) http://www.implementingscrum.com/2006/09/11/the-classic-story-of-the-pig-and-chicken/comment-page-1/#comment-1537 daily_meeting (Daily Meeting) Tue, 24 Aug 2010 01:33:35 +0000 http://www.implementingscrum.com/blog/2006/09/11/the-classic-story-of-the-pig-and-chicken/#comment-1537 <strong>Twitter Comment</strong> <a href="http://twitter.com/daily_meeting" title="Twitter Comment" rel="nofollow"> <div class="ccimg1" title="daily_meeting (Daily Meeting)" style="float:left;margin-right:10px;padding:0;width:60px;height:60px;"> <img name="cc_image" title="daily_meeting (Daily Meeting)" style="float:left;margin-right:10px;padding:0;width:50px;height:50px;" src="http://purl.org/net/spiurl/daily_meeting"> </div> </a> The Classic Story of the Pig and Chicken. [link to post] #scrum #agile<br /><br /> - <a href="http://chatcatcher.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Posted using Chat Catcher</a> Twitter Comment


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]]> By: Cassiekov (Cassiekov) http://www.implementingscrum.com/2006/09/11/the-classic-story-of-the-pig-and-chicken/comment-page-1/#comment-1524 Cassiekov (Cassiekov) Mon, 09 Aug 2010 20:44:10 +0000 http://www.implementingscrum.com/blog/2006/09/11/the-classic-story-of-the-pig-and-chicken/#comment-1524 <strong>Twitter Comment</strong> <a href="http://twitter.com/Cassiekov" title="Twitter Comment" rel="nofollow"> <div class="ccimg1" title="Cassiekov (Cassiekov)" style="float:left;margin-right:10px;padding:0;width:60px;height:60px;"> <img name="cc_image" title="Cassiekov (Cassiekov)" style="float:left;margin-right:10px;padding:0;width:50px;height:50px;" src="http://purl.org/net/spiurl/Cassiekov"> </div> </a> Are you a "pig" or a "chicken"? [link to post] (thanks @marissasays for your Scrum talk today).<br /><br /> - <a href="http://chatcatcher.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Posted using Chat Catcher</a> Twitter Comment


Are you a “pig” or a “chicken”? [link to post] (thanks @marissasays for your Scrum talk today).

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]]> By: Projektmanager – Pig oder Chicken? (Comic « Projekt Management Beratung) http://www.implementingscrum.com/2006/09/11/the-classic-story-of-the-pig-and-chicken/comment-page-1/#comment-1490 Projektmanager – Pig oder Chicken? (Comic « Projekt Management Beratung) Fri, 23 Jul 2010 06:01:12 +0000 http://www.implementingscrum.com/blog/2006/09/11/the-classic-story-of-the-pig-and-chicken/#comment-1490 [...] Der referenzierte Klassiker dazu findet sich auf Implementing Scrum: [...] [...] Der referenzierte Klassiker dazu findet sich auf Implementing Scrum: [...]

]]> By: mvizdos http://www.implementingscrum.com/2006/09/11/the-classic-story-of-the-pig-and-chicken/comment-page-1/#comment-1488 mvizdos Mon, 12 Jul 2010 19:35:19 +0000 http://www.implementingscrum.com/blog/2006/09/11/the-classic-story-of-the-pig-and-chicken/#comment-1488 Hi, I appreciate the comment and understand that some people do not like this analogy. I specifically use this analogy to show the conversations between Team Members, Product Owners, and ScrumMasters are difficult. I am using this cartoon series (around for almost 4 years with almost 100 cartoons published) to help *start* those conversations. Like the analogy or not, well, it is here to stay and I will continue to use it so that we can all have tough conversations -- thus improving things for all of us! Hi,

I appreciate the comment and understand that some people do not like this analogy. I specifically use this analogy to show the conversations between Team Members, Product Owners, and ScrumMasters are difficult. I am using this cartoon series (around for almost 4 years with almost 100 cartoons published) to help *start* those conversations. Like the analogy or not, well, it is here to stay and I will continue to use it so that we can all have tough conversations — thus improving things for all of us!

]]> By: Dennis Stevens http://www.implementingscrum.com/2006/09/11/the-classic-story-of-the-pig-and-chicken/comment-page-1/#comment-1487 Dennis Stevens Mon, 12 Jul 2010 01:30:33 +0000 http://www.implementingscrum.com/blog/2006/09/11/the-classic-story-of-the-pig-and-chicken/#comment-1487 This is one of the most distasteful, divisive, and inaccurate stories in the world of software development. In most organizations, the only person putting the ability to feed their family on the line is the Product Owner or the Executive Sponsor of the project. We pretend Agile is about Trust, and then we promote Chickens and Pigs as the very first story assuring we are establishing a low trust relationship with management. Are you kidding me? Is this really something we want to continue to promote - that we feel the developers are the only ones with anything on the line in spending the companies money trying to deliver value to our customers. Dennis Stevens This is one of the most distasteful, divisive, and inaccurate stories in the world of software development. In most organizations, the only person putting the ability to feed their family on the line is the Product Owner or the Executive Sponsor of the project.

We pretend Agile is about Trust, and then we promote Chickens and Pigs as the very first story assuring we are establishing a low trust relationship with management. Are you kidding me? Is this really something we want to continue to promote – that we feel the developers are the only ones with anything on the line in spending the companies money trying to deliver value to our customers.

Dennis Stevens

]]> By: UrWIneGuy (James Jazz King) http://www.implementingscrum.com/2006/09/11/the-classic-story-of-the-pig-and-chicken/comment-page-1/#comment-1473 UrWIneGuy (James Jazz King) Tue, 01 Jun 2010 16:04:58 +0000 http://www.implementingscrum.com/blog/2006/09/11/the-classic-story-of-the-pig-and-chicken/#comment-1473 <strong>Twitter Comment</strong> <a href="http://twitter.com/UrWIneGuy" title="Twitter Comment" rel="nofollow"> <div class="ccimg1" title="UrWIneGuy (James Jazz King)" style="float:left;margin-right:10px;padding:0;width:60px;height:60px;"> <img name="cc_image" title="UrWIneGuy (James Jazz King)" style="float:left;margin-right:10px;padding:0;width:50px;height:50px;" src="http://purl.org/net/spiurl/UrWIneGuy"> </div> </a> Be the #Bacon: [link to post] by @mvizdos. Please RT.<br /><br /> - <a href="http://chatcatcher.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Posted using Chat Catcher</a> Twitter Comment


Be the #Bacon: [link to post] by @mvizdos. Please RT.

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]]> By: ashokbabuy (Ashok Yalamanchili) http://www.implementingscrum.com/2006/09/11/the-classic-story-of-the-pig-and-chicken/comment-page-1/#comment-1472 ashokbabuy (Ashok Yalamanchili) Tue, 01 Jun 2010 13:36:55 +0000 http://www.implementingscrum.com/blog/2006/09/11/the-classic-story-of-the-pig-and-chicken/#comment-1472 <strong>Twitter Comment</strong> <a href="http://twitter.com/ashokbabuy" title="Twitter Comment" rel="nofollow"> <div class="ccimg1" title="ashokbabuy (Ashok Yalamanchili)" style="float:left;margin-right:10px;padding:0;width:60px;height:60px;"> <img name="cc_image" title="ashokbabuy (Ashok Yalamanchili)" style="float:left;margin-right:10px;padding:0;width:50px;height:50px;" src="http://purl.org/net/spiurl/ashokbabuy"> </div> </a> Currently reading [link to post] by @mvizdos. Please RT.<br /><br /> - <a href="http://chatcatcher.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Posted using Chat Catcher</a> Twitter Comment


Currently reading [link to post] by @mvizdos. Please RT.

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]]> By: polymathea (polymathea) http://www.implementingscrum.com/2006/09/11/the-classic-story-of-the-pig-and-chicken/comment-page-1/#comment-1462 polymathea (polymathea) Tue, 04 May 2010 19:42:00 +0000 http://www.implementingscrum.com/blog/2006/09/11/the-classic-story-of-the-pig-and-chicken/#comment-1462 <strong>Twitter Comment</strong> <a href="http://twitter.com/polymathea" title="Twitter Comment" rel="nofollow"> <div class="ccimg1" title="polymathea (polymathea)" style="float:left;margin-right:10px;padding:0;width:60px;height:60px;"> <img name="cc_image" title="polymathea (polymathea)" style="float:left;margin-right:10px;padding:0;width:50px;height:50px;" src="http://purl.org/net/spiurl/polymathea"> </div> </a> Transcribing series of interviews on Strategic Alliances - one has #Bruce Acheson talking about the ham n egg alliance! [link to post]<br /><br /> - <a href="http://chatcatcher.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Posted using Chat Catcher</a> Twitter Comment


Transcribing series of interviews on Strategic Alliances – one has #Bruce Acheson talking about the ham n egg alliance! [link to post]

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]]> By: E os programadores, onde erram? | Pythonologia http://www.implementingscrum.com/2006/09/11/the-classic-story-of-the-pig-and-chicken/comment-page-1/#comment-1457 E os programadores, onde erram? | Pythonologia Sun, 25 Apr 2010 15:55:05 +0000 http://www.implementingscrum.com/blog/2006/09/11/the-classic-story-of-the-pig-and-chicken/#comment-1457 [...] encomendada, a ‘obra de arte’ é dele também. Sem essa compreensão eles deixam de se comprometer com sua [...] [...] encomendada, a ‘obra de arte’ é dele também. Sem essa compreensão eles deixam de se comprometer com sua [...]

]]> By: Involved or committed? – Day 53/139 « How to Make a Million Before 30 http://www.implementingscrum.com/2006/09/11/the-classic-story-of-the-pig-and-chicken/comment-page-1/#comment-1441 Involved or committed? – Day 53/139 « How to Make a Million Before 30 Sat, 03 Apr 2010 12:38:48 +0000 http://www.implementingscrum.com/blog/2006/09/11/the-classic-story-of-the-pig-and-chicken/#comment-1441 [...] Let me present you the classic story of the pig and the chicken: [...] [...] Let me present you the classic story of the pig and the chicken: [...]

]]> By: SCRUM e Testes: Quais as melhores formas de implementar? « QualidadeBR http://www.implementingscrum.com/2006/09/11/the-classic-story-of-the-pig-and-chicken/comment-page-1/#comment-1394 SCRUM e Testes: Quais as melhores formas de implementar? « QualidadeBR Mon, 08 Mar 2010 02:30:49 +0000 http://www.implementingscrum.com/blog/2006/09/11/the-classic-story-of-the-pig-and-chicken/#comment-1394 [...] PO atuando apenas como um envolvido, ou pior ainda, pouco cooperando com a [...] [...] PO atuando apenas como um envolvido, ou pior ainda, pouco cooperando com a [...]

]]> By: mvizdos http://www.implementingscrum.com/2006/09/11/the-classic-story-of-the-pig-and-chicken/comment-page-1/#comment-1392 mvizdos Sat, 06 Mar 2010 02:40:23 +0000 http://www.implementingscrum.com/blog/2006/09/11/the-classic-story-of-the-pig-and-chicken/#comment-1392 Hmm.... I'd consider them a "pig" in that good ones are involved *daily* with the team to make minor course corrections and not have any surprises from the rest of the team :). Hmm…. I’d consider them a “pig” in that good ones are involved *daily* with the team to make minor course corrections and not have any surprises from the rest of the team :) .

]]> By: Taridzo http://www.implementingscrum.com/2006/09/11/the-classic-story-of-the-pig-and-chicken/comment-page-1/#comment-1390 Taridzo Fri, 05 Mar 2010 14:09:51 +0000 http://www.implementingscrum.com/blog/2006/09/11/the-classic-story-of-the-pig-and-chicken/#comment-1390 I dont know what you think, but i would not call the role of the product owner "pig". The product owner has his role during planning, but once a commitment to the goal is made, it's up to the team to deliver. PO attends daily scrums only as an observer. The team is a definitely commited pig. I dont know what you think, but i would not call the role of the product owner “pig”. The product owner has his role during planning, but once a commitment to the goal is made, it’s up to the team to deliver. PO attends daily scrums only as an observer. The team is a definitely commited pig.

]]> By: mvizdos (Mike Vizdos) http://www.implementingscrum.com/2006/09/11/the-classic-story-of-the-pig-and-chicken/comment-page-1/#comment-1385 mvizdos (Mike Vizdos) Thu, 04 Mar 2010 22:39:04 +0000 http://www.implementingscrum.com/blog/2006/09/11/the-classic-story-of-the-pig-and-chicken/#comment-1385 <strong>Twitter Comment</strong> <a href="http://twitter.com/mvizdos" title="Twitter Comment" rel="nofollow"> <div class="ccimg1" title="mvizdos (Mike Vizdos)" style="float:left;margin-right:10px;padding:0;width:60px;height:60px;"> <img name="cc_image" title="mvizdos (Mike Vizdos)" style="float:left;margin-right:10px;padding:0;width:50px;height:50px;" src="http://purl.org/net/spiurl/mvizdos"> </div> </a> @chrisajenkins Thanks for the pointer to [link to post] Wow... it all really started for me with this posting :). I appreciate it.<br /><br /> - <a href="http://chatcatcher.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Posted using Chat Catcher</a> Twitter Comment


@chrisajenkins Thanks for the pointer to [link to post] Wow… it all really started for me with this posting :) . I appreciate it.

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]]> By: chrisajenkins (chrisajenkins) http://www.implementingscrum.com/2006/09/11/the-classic-story-of-the-pig-and-chicken/comment-page-1/#comment-1378 chrisajenkins (chrisajenkins) Thu, 04 Mar 2010 18:56:53 +0000 http://www.implementingscrum.com/blog/2006/09/11/the-classic-story-of-the-pig-and-chicken/#comment-1378 <strong>Twitter Comment</strong> <a href="http://twitter.com/chrisajenkins" title="Twitter Comment" rel="nofollow"> <div class="ccimg1" title="chrisajenkins (chrisajenkins)" style="float:left;margin-right:10px;padding:0;width:60px;height:60px;"> <img name="cc_image" title="chrisajenkins (chrisajenkins)" style="float:left;margin-right:10px;padding:0;width:50px;height:50px;" src="http://purl.org/net/spiurl/chrisajenkins"> </div> </a> The Pig and the Chicken [link to post]<br /><br /> - <a href="http://chatcatcher.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Posted using Chat Catcher</a> Twitter Comment


The Pig and the Chicken [link to post]

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]]> By: mvizdos http://www.implementingscrum.com/2006/09/11/the-classic-story-of-the-pig-and-chicken/comment-page-1/#comment-1366 mvizdos Thu, 25 Feb 2010 15:49:22 +0000 http://www.implementingscrum.com/blog/2006/09/11/the-classic-story-of-the-pig-and-chicken/#comment-1366 I am not endorsing this product -- just wanted to say that logo is pretty cool :). Nice job! I am not endorsing this product — just wanted to say that logo is pretty cool :) . Nice job!

]]> By: Online Scrum Tool http://www.implementingscrum.com/2006/09/11/the-classic-story-of-the-pig-and-chicken/comment-page-1/#comment-1331 Online Scrum Tool Thu, 26 Nov 2009 06:36:55 +0000 http://www.implementingscrum.com/blog/2006/09/11/the-classic-story-of-the-pig-and-chicken/#comment-1331 I like how your son put it. Check out the www.scrumedge.com logo. I like how your son put it. Check out the http://www.scrumedge.com logo.

]]> By: iyshan http://www.implementingscrum.com/2006/09/11/the-classic-story-of-the-pig-and-chicken/comment-page-1/#comment-1329 iyshan Thu, 19 Nov 2009 05:03:14 +0000 http://www.implementingscrum.com/blog/2006/09/11/the-classic-story-of-the-pig-and-chicken/#comment-1329 I have a translated version of Chinese(traditional) in my website. I like this story. Thank you for sharing. I have a translated version of Chinese(traditional) in my website.
I like this story.
Thank you for sharing.

]]> By: Scrum in Web Development – Spark Genius http://www.implementingscrum.com/2006/09/11/the-classic-story-of-the-pig-and-chicken/comment-page-1/#comment-1286 Scrum in Web Development – Spark Genius Mon, 19 Oct 2009 19:26:45 +0000 http://www.implementingscrum.com/blog/2006/09/11/the-classic-story-of-the-pig-and-chicken/#comment-1286 [...] Cartoon: The Classic Story of the Pig and the Chicken (Explains roles in Scrum) This entry was written by Administrator, posted on October 19, 2009 at 1:26 pm, filed under News. Bookmark the permalink. Follow any comments here with the RSS feed for this post. Post a comment or leave a trackback: Trackback URL. « Client – Utah Renaissance & Leadership Center [...] [...] Cartoon: The Classic Story of the Pig and the Chicken (Explains roles in Scrum) This entry was written by Administrator, posted on October 19, 2009 at 1:26 pm, filed under News. Bookmark the permalink. Follow any comments here with the RSS feed for this post. Post a comment or leave a trackback: Trackback URL. « Client – Utah Renaissance & Leadership Center [...]

]]> By: Confluence: Kehitys http://www.implementingscrum.com/2006/09/11/the-classic-story-of-the-pig-and-chicken/comment-page-1/#comment-1277 Confluence: Kehitys Mon, 05 Oct 2009 21:01:24 +0000 http://www.implementingscrum.com/blog/2006/09/11/the-classic-story-of-the-pig-and-chicken/#comment-1277 <strong>Työkalut...</strong> Alla ransklaisin viivoin ja linkit projekteissa käytettäviin menetelmiin ja työkaluihin. Lisätietoa löyty seka Jabin Confluencesta, projektien kotisivuilta että muualta netistä etsimällä....... Työkalut…

Alla ransklaisin viivoin ja linkit projekteissa käytettäviin menetelmiin ja työkaluihin. Lisätietoa löyty seka Jabin Confluencesta, projektien kotisivuilta että muualta netistä etsimällä…….

]]> By: Daily Scrum is for Pigs « Customer Oriented Software Development http://www.implementingscrum.com/2006/09/11/the-classic-story-of-the-pig-and-chicken/comment-page-1/#comment-1275 Daily Scrum is for Pigs « Customer Oriented Software Development Sun, 27 Sep 2009 15:31:07 +0000 http://www.implementingscrum.com/blog/2006/09/11/the-classic-story-of-the-pig-and-chicken/#comment-1275 [...] September 27, 2009 Daily Scrum is for Pigs Posted by henriklarsson under agile, daily scrum, scrum Leave a Comment  In the Scrum world people are committed or involved. See the Classic Story of the Pig and Chicken. [...] [...] September 27, 2009 Daily Scrum is for Pigs Posted by henriklarsson under agile, daily scrum, scrum Leave a Comment  In the Scrum world people are committed or involved. See the Classic Story of the Pig and Chicken. [...]

]]> By: Roolit scrumissa « Sekalaista höpinää http://www.implementingscrum.com/2006/09/11/the-classic-story-of-the-pig-and-chicken/comment-page-1/#comment-1268 Roolit scrumissa « Sekalaista höpinää Fri, 11 Sep 2009 11:46:48 +0000 http://www.implementingscrum.com/blog/2006/09/11/the-classic-story-of-the-pig-and-chicken/#comment-1268 [...] scrummin eri rooleista. Heillä oli aika mielenkiitoisia näkemyksiä niistä ja erityisesti kanat ja siat naurattivat heitä. He epäilivät koodareiden olevan sikoja työympäristönsä [...] [...] scrummin eri rooleista. Heillä oli aika mielenkiitoisia näkemyksiä niistä ja erityisesti kanat ja siat naurattivat heitä. He epäilivät koodareiden olevan sikoja työympäristönsä [...]

]]> By: Monthly Strategic Meeting « Analytical Mind http://www.implementingscrum.com/2006/09/11/the-classic-story-of-the-pig-and-chicken/comment-page-1/#comment-1244 Monthly Strategic Meeting « Analytical Mind Tue, 25 Aug 2009 12:38:15 +0000 http://www.implementingscrum.com/blog/2006/09/11/the-classic-story-of-the-pig-and-chicken/#comment-1244 [...] All employees interested and available can attend the meeting as “chickens“. [...] [...] All employees interested and available can attend the meeting as “chickens“. [...]

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