Comments on: The Blind Leading The Blind. The Debrief. http://www.implementingscrum.com/2007/12/12/the-blind-leading-the-blind-the-debrief/ Starting Tough Conversations about Software Development Tue, 16 Mar 2010 01:24:03 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: mvizdos http://www.implementingscrum.com/2007/12/12/the-blind-leading-the-blind-the-debrief/comment-page-1/#comment-93 mvizdos Sun, 16 Dec 2007 08:41:40 +0000 http://www.implementingscrum.com/blog/2007/12/12/the-blind-leading-the-blind-the-debrief/#comment-93 Hi, Thank you for the comment. This is one of the main reasons I did add that section to the exercise -- it is eye opening for many people (especially groups I work with that are either brand new or in a public class where many people do not know one another). Just don't play it up much the first time you do this and only point out -- through the questioning and debrief -- of what the team saw. If they execute on it perfectly (and some "get it")... ask... "What could have gone wrong here." And be quiet (smile). - mike vizdos www.implementingscrum.com www.michaelvizdos.com Hi,

Thank you for the comment. This is one of the main reasons I did add that section to the exercise — it is eye opening for many people (especially groups I work with that are either brand new or in a public class where many people do not know one another).

Just don’t play it up much the first time you do this and only point out — through the questioning and debrief — of what the team saw. If they execute on it perfectly (and some “get it”)… ask… “What could have gone wrong here.”

And be quiet (smile).

- mike vizdos
http://www.implementingscrum.com
http://www.michaelvizdos.com

]]> By: huygir http://www.implementingscrum.com/2007/12/12/the-blind-leading-the-blind-the-debrief/comment-page-1/#comment-88 huygir Thu, 13 Dec 2007 14:04:41 +0000 http://www.implementingscrum.com/blog/2007/12/12/the-blind-leading-the-blind-the-debrief/#comment-88 I anticipated (through experience mostly) everything you said EXCEPT one thing... I never expected that you would see a "team" given directions to succeed as a "team" let blind members simply crash (and burn). In hindsight, "teams" certainly do that all the time, but in general just the competitive nature of human beings would seem to be enough that they would work to "win" (and the goal was pretty clear). I'm looking forward to adding that 3rd part of the traditional exercise so that I can see this for myself. It actually kind of concerns me. Thanks, dude. I anticipated (through experience mostly) everything you said EXCEPT one thing… I never expected that you would see a “team” given directions to succeed as a “team” let blind members simply crash (and burn). In hindsight, “teams” certainly do that all the time, but in general just the competitive nature of human beings would seem to be enough that they would work to “win” (and the goal was pretty clear).

I’m looking forward to adding that 3rd part of the traditional exercise so that I can see this for myself. It actually kind of concerns me.

Thanks, dude.

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